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ZM Zvi Mowshowitz Zvi Mowshowitz AI analyst and rationalist blogger who writes weekly roundups on language models, their uses and harms, and catastrophic AI risk, alongside posts on housing, ed...

“They still seem like pretty the most responsible lab, but that's rating on a curve. And I don't like rating on curve because reality doesn't have a curve. Reality just decides what happens.”

The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis · AI Research & Frontier Labs · October 2026

“They still seem like pretty the most responsible lab, but that's rating on a curve. And I don't like rating on curve because reality doesn't have a curve. Reality just decides what happens.” — Zvi Mowshowitz, The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

Asked how to understand Anthropic now, the AI writer says it has a much stronger safety culture than its rivals but one that is not adequate to the moment. He argues its policy team acts like a normal corporation a remarkably large share of the time.

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…needs to happen. All the alignment work still needs to happen. The mechanics stuff is great. We should absolutely do it. The biggest thing is, you know, we're going to have to meet the moment. And we're going to have to, at minimum, do something that counts as some form of facing the frontier.

Nathan Labenz

Nathan Calvin of ENCODE had publicly listed nine anthropic decisions he saw as putting the race ahead of safety. And Dario Amadei had replied at length. I asked Zvi Mowshowitz we should understand Anthropic now.

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…information, so many different bits of information that we should be worried about this. I've also, you know, recently from various employees that I talked to at various points gotten some rather alarming views about from my perspective on what it would take to solve alignment problems, what it would take to make the future go well. And all of that plays into being very highly uncomfortable. They still seem like pretty the most responsible lab, but that's rating on a curve. And I don't like rating on curve because reality doesn't have a curve. Reality just decides what happens.

Nathan Labenz

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