Zvi Mowshowitz

Things Zvi Says on Podcasts

AI analyst and rationalist blogger who writes weekly roundups on language models, their uses and harms, and catastrophic AI risk, alongside posts on housing, education and sports. Member of the Magic: The Gathering Pro Tour Hall of Fame, founder of the policy think tank Balsa Research and co-founder of MetaMed. Publishes Don't Worry About the Vase on Substack and WordPress. Has appeared on The Cognitive Revolution, 80,000 Hours Podcast, Odd Lots and EconTalk.

Where to Find Them

Zvi Mowshowitz writes Don't Worry About the Vase (Zvi) . They have also been a guest on The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis (17 times) , 80,000 Hours Podcast (2 times) , Odd Lots (2 times) , Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11) (2 times) , Future of Life Institute Podcast , NonZero Newsletter , ChinaTalk , EconTalk , Risk of Ruin and What's Your Problem? .

Recently: “AI:AM Highlights: Clean Neurons, Black October, the GPU Credit Crunch, and Buying the Supply Chain” on The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis (October 2026); “AI #191: The Hackening Begins” on Don't Worry About the Vase (Zvi) (October 2026); “Misaligned!” on Don't Worry About the Vase (Zvi) (October 2026); “Anthropic Does Not Understand Why Its Draft Bill Was Unacceptable and Troubling” on Don't Worry About the Vase (Zvi) (October 2026); “I Can See Everything” on Don't Worry About the Vase (Zvi) (October 2026); “Leaked Anthropic Draft AI Regulatory Bill Is Unacceptable and Troubling” on Don't Worry About the Vase (Zvi) (October 2026).

What They Said

“They still seem like pretty the most responsible lab, but that's rating on a curve. And I don't like rating on curve because reality doesn't have a curve. Reality just decides what happens.” — Zvi Mowshowitz, The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

Asked how to understand Anthropic now, the AI writer says it has a much stronger safety culture than its rivals but one that is not adequate to the moment. He argues its policy team acts like a normal corporation a remarkably large share of the time.

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The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis Around 1:27:45 into the episode
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…needs to happen. All the alignment work still needs to happen. The mechanics stuff is great. We should absolutely do it. The biggest thing is, you know, we're going to have to meet the moment. And we're going to have to, at minimum, do something that counts as some form of facing the frontier.

Nathan Labenz

Nathan Calvin of ENCODE had publicly listed nine anthropic decisions he saw as putting the race ahead of safety. And Dario Amadei had replied at length. I asked Zvi Mowshowitz we should understand Anthropic now.

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…information, so many different bits of information that we should be worried about this. I've also, you know, recently from various employees that I talked to at various points gotten some rather alarming views about from my perspective on what it would take to solve alignment problems, what it would take to make the future go well. And all of that plays into being very highly uncomfortable. They still seem like pretty the most responsible lab, but that's rating on a curve. And I don't like rating on curve because reality doesn't have a curve. Reality just decides what happens.

Nathan Labenz

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