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Start free trial →Odd Lots · Money & Markets · October 2026
Duong was describing recent incidents his security firm was called in to respond to. He uses them to argue that detection-based defense doesn't work when AI-driven attackers move this fast.
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Like how things have changed.
Yeah, basically, we saw like, you know, in the Open AI and hacking phase incident, there one detail that is very. Interesting. I'm not sure if people notice, but OpenAI note that the people who handle incident on the OpenAI side, they said that they have handled a lot of incidents. But this is the first time they saw that, you know, an incident where you have like a hundred points within your networks that were compromised at the same time. Like there were a hundred like hackers within your system. Normally, you have maybe one or two, right? Now you have a hundred. And I saw that, I was like, wow, that was pretty interesting. But maybe because OpenAI have lots of tokens, so their agents can just go, you know, hack everything. And then just two weeks ago, we have like two clients in the banking industry and they got hacked and they called us to help them with like the incident response. We came in because we do hacking as well. We know like usually it took us like maybe a month or something once we come in a network and then took a month for us to spread out. For the AI, it took like they came in, they broke the net, they broke…
Noted, we have a hundred hackers in our system right now. It's not really helpful.
Exactly. How could you do it, right? And then you have to shut down everything. But shut down is not an option because you are a bank. So that's actually requires to sit down and think about how to redesign like defense system, right? What we have right now is not working very well. But to come…
Protein that makes our brains get bigger. All right. Well, Ty and Bruce from Calif. Thank you so much for showing us. That was a lot of fun. You're both