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JV Jordi Visser Jordi Visser Macro investor with three decades on Wall Street, formerly president and chief investment officer of Weiss Multi-Strategy Advisers; now runs Visser Labs, advisi...

“Where it hurts is for younger people that are not embracing it, that are not using it, they are going to have trouble getting jobs. It's just a reality. There's no way that you can compete in today's workforce without being efficient. And if you think the company that's hiring you, like, oh, great, I found a company that isn't using AI… that company is not going to be in business very long.”

The Pomp Podcast · October 2026

“Where it hurts is for younger people that are not embracing it, that are not using it, they are going to have trouble getting jobs. It's just a reality. There's no way that you can compete in today's workforce without being efficient. And if you think the company that's hiring you, like, oh, great, I found a company that isn't using AI… that company is not going to be in business very long.” — Jordi Visser, The Pomp Podcast

Context

Responding to a story about a young hire who complained that everyone in their department was using AI, he gives his view on who loses out by avoiding the technology.

Transcript

The Pomp Podcast Around 27:12 into the episode
Jordi Visser

hear that, William? Look at

Anthony Pompliano

this guy. Jordy asked him to eat live on the podcast.

Jordi Visser

…I mean, I know people now in my life that have used Grockbot to do some things I told them they could do. I didn't know you could use Grockbot without paying a lot of money for a month because I already do. I don't keep up on what's free, like what becomes free, but the models keep getting better and the free tier keeps getting better and better and better to where you can do all these things. Where it hurts is for younger people that are not embracing it, that are not using it, they are going to have trouble getting jobs. It's just a reality. There's no way that you can compete in today's workforce without being efficient. And if you think the company that's hiring you, like, oh, great, I found a company that isn't using AI that isn't forcing me to, that company is not going to be in business very long. And that process is going to start. In fact, I'll go back to the triple C. Triple C. So companies that are junkie junk junk, their cost of borrowing is now 16%. Now, some of that is the rise in 10 year rates, but a lot of that is the spread widening. 16%. That's how if you're going to borrow money at 16%, you need…

Anthony Pompliano

All right. I joked in the beginning that your Halloween costume should be Mr. Eli Lilly himself. I don't think there's actually an Eli Lilly, but all-time highs, up 10% in two days. You sat in this seat a couple months ago and said that one of your big bets for the AI trade was Eli Lilly. You've…

Jordi Visser

First of all, the numbers are staggering. I challenge anyone to just go into an LLM and say, hey, can you give me the earnings details from this quarter for Eli Lilly? I mean, you're talking about revenue growth, revenue. So, to give people an idea, like good revenue, the SP 500 right now revenue…

Anthony Pompliano

$24.4 billion. Let me just read some of these notes. These are so crazy. So Eli Lilly reported revenue of $24.4 billion, up 39%. The expectation was $22.6 billion. So they outperformed expectations by $2 billion, almost 10%. Their volume grew 53%. Prices are down 15%. Gross margin was 83%. Non-GAP…

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