“What's Australia's sovereign capacity in terms of fertilizer production? Sixty percent of the cost of producing nitrogen is in the energy. So if we're going to be this renewable energy superpower, both in Australia and specifically in the west, how do we utilize that competitive advantage to produce our nitrogen on Australian land?”

yeah okay look there's a lot of risks and they can be risks from concern around water runoff around lay down pads through to concerns around decommissioning in 35 years so that's where it becomes really difficult because it's kind of like that being in the shearing shed and trying to think of a 35-year business deal at the same time the risks go from very operational very production focused very land-based issues all the way through to so in 35 years if the next owner is here or my children or my children's children are farming is what's the end of life of this project look like what's my decommissioning security how do i ensure that i know that i'm not actually setting up for a horrible mess at the end of 35 years so that that's and that's the landowners that i'm working with at the minute who are just so wonderful to work with so i'm doing a separate project altogether as an independent consultant and they're the very questions that they are asking you know they're saying what happens if in 15 years even the project goes broke who is then responsible for the decommissioning cost what happens if because i've got a…