“If they say the alternative, which is there is no way to contain our experiments, there's just no way — when we test our AI models, it will get out and it will damage the world — then I think the answer is we have to shut the labs down, because the cost to humanity, the damage, is too great.”

now it comes back to the engineering problem again. And so, the one is one, you have to root cause it. Second, you have to think about what you could have done, what's the solution for it. And then in the future, you just improve your process so that you could avoid this from happening again. I am fairly certain. I am fairly certain. They will say, yes, they know how to solve this problem. And if that's the case, then that's the problem. It's as simple as engineering. And now, the alternative, the alternative. Is that if they say the alternative, which is there is no way to contain our experiments, there's just no way. When we test our AI models, it will get out and it will damage the world. Then I think the answer is we have to shut the labs down because the cost to humanity, the damage is too great. The liabilities, it could be civil liabilities, could be criminal liabilities. I mean, the liability is incredible.