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RD Rodger Davis On Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast

“Barley is a major, major component of beer. And we don't give it the respect that it needs because we don't care where our barley comes from.”

Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast · Food & Beverage · November 2026

“Barley is a major, major component of beer. And we don't give it the respect that it needs because we don't care where our barley comes from.” — Rodger Davis, Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast

Context

Explaining why his brewery switched base malts after a poor barley crop pushed finishing gravities up, he argues brewers obsess over hops and ignore barley.

Transcript

Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast Around 30:53 into the episode
Rodger Davis

Our beers have totally changed.

Jamie Bogner

Yeah.

Rodger Davis

2D is really nice in the fact that it literally dries our beers out a little bit more. And just it's clean through the mash ton, louder ton, if you will. We only have a mash and louder ton, but it's very clear coming through. Very unfrustrating from the 2022 crop that was like insane. Barley is a fucking major, major component, major component of beer. And we don't give it the respect that it needs because we don't care where our barley comes from.

Jamie Bogner

So you have this terrible crop in 2022, 2023 where, you know, efficiencies.

Rodger Davis

Barley or barley.

Jamie Bogner

And, you know, and that was well documented. We wrote plenty of stories about that. You know, the quality of the barley was low and due to just crazy heat waves everywhere and whatnot.

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