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RD Rodger Davis On Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast

“It's frustrating in today's world that, if you don't put Mosaic or Citra on the label, you can't sell the beer. I mean, we do beers that don't have any of those, and people are like, I don't want that.”

Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast · Food & Beverage · November 2026

“It's frustrating in today's world that, if you don't put Mosaic or Citra on the label, you can't sell the beer. I mean, we do beers that don't have any of those, and people are like, I don't want that.” — Rodger Davis, Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast

Context

Talking about lesser-known hops, the brewer complains that drinkers now buy beer by hop name rather than by how it tastes.

Transcript

Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast Around 25:06 into the episode
Rodger Davis

that sounds like a really good idea. All right. All right. But no, I mean, Columbus typically overpowers anything. So you have to, yeah. What do you plays well with dank? I'd go with Citra. Maybe some Idaho 7.

Jamie Bogner

Yeah.

Rodger Davis

It's frustrating in today's world that you can't, if you don't put Mosaic or Citra on the label, you can't sell the beer. I mean, we do beers that don't have any of those, and people are like, I don't want that. I don't want that. Do you not see that across your travels?

Jamie Bogner

I don't know that I see it in that same kind of way. But then again, you know, this is the San Francisco Bay Area is kind of, you know, its own place with its own amongst a certain kind of beer consuming crowd that has a certain level of knowledge. Like, you know, it is what it is. You got a wealth…

Rodger Davis

with you, I think this is like one of the best scenes I've ever seen of the Bay Area beer scene than I've seen in a long ass time. Yeah. Because you can actually walk from Wondrous to Tenma and back and get on a short trip to go to fucking see Ghost Town and Bricks, Bricks Factory. I mean, it's…

Jamie Bogner

got a Santa Adarius tap room here in Oakland. Santa

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