“The problem isn't that these people are evil. The problem is that they're capitalists. And we shouldn't build a regulatory architecture that requires CEOs to choose humanity over market share every Tuesday morning.”

don't set their own capital requirements. Boeing doesn't certify its own plan. We're asking the guys building Jurassic Park to serve as the park rangers. We're asking the tram stores recs to be the park ranger here.

You use the expression all the time. We're allowing the arsonists to tell us about fire safety, essentially. And one of the things that's really interesting here is how much I'm just riveted. Like when it came out, I think I'm sure you went on TNO. I was like, this is just. Ridiculous. This is just, and of course they spelled the United States wrong, which is just like, who in the world is over there that can just like actually copy edit. But, but this Heg says thing, this thing with the president at the White House, it's all such theater. It's just ridiculous theater without anything. Meanwhile, these guys get to do whatever they want and sort of pretend that they're getting along. This is a Silicon Valley beef happening on asphalt in front of the White House. That's all it is. It's like how they, and they had poor Dario there. He looked like a hostage. I don't know if you noticed. They kept moving him around. Yeah. You know, he kept trying to run away. It was just the whole, I know he's trying now to cooperate because he's going public, which we'll talk about in a little bit. But I just, this is like so dangerous. It's both things are so dangerous in terms of what's happening. And this leaves us so vulnerable in so many ways. And especially the fact that he's doubling down, Scott, when every single poll says differently. What do you imagine is going on there? He just doesn't care or he's getting money? Or what is your explanation from a marketing point of view, even of pushing this stuff when everybody is against it?

I think he's going a different direction. He often does that, right? He wants to be the kind of, Bill is on a quest to be relevant and he is relevant, but I think he, there's a couple of people who are going to stake at a very different thing. And he doesn't have skin in the game, right? I assume he still owns Microsoft shares. The thing I like about Bill is he does say these things out loud. The thing I don't is he tends to be like very, he should be more strongly worded, I would say, but it's not in his nature. He likes to sort of get along in a lot of ways. And I think we need a leader from this group that says, hold on a second. This is existential. But in a very, someone who's not at one of these companies who has a lot of credibility.

He's saying that, though. I mean, he is. He still has Microsoft stock. And he's saying legal liability is not enough. They need regulation. The threats are very real here. I appreciate it. And also, for all the hits, deservedly, that the Gates brand has taken, how many, he would still be the richest man in the world for not for the fact that he saw an opportunity to nearly eliminate malaria and save millions of people. I agree. It's like he is, you know, he is the tallest little person, the fastest tortoise. I really have a lot of respect for, I've said the same thing over. I don't, I think millions of people who are still alive do not give a shit that Bill Gates was allegedly fucking prostitutes. I think those 5 million people give him a hall pass that are still alive because of Bill Gates. And then you look at the other side, a guy like Elon Musk, who you could argue is going to go down as not putting a colony on the moon and Mars so him and his buddies can pick a series of sexually attractive mates to repopulate the world after we fight it out here on Earth and is potentially going to be found responsible for what might be the largest indirect cause of death, disease, and disability in Africa after we cut off USA.

They are quite opposite figures, you know, on so many levels.