“I think concentration of power has basically been bad in every moment of human history, to varying degrees, of course. … I don't think any of us should want to be locked into one model, one AI's or one person's or one company's moral worldview.”

…in a small number of models or companies, but diffused throughout the economy so people can defend themselves. Like, you know, it's really important that people, human values are guiding these systems every step of the way. Yeah, I think we're like in the real, the real deal phase of this.

…like how you've been thinking about both concentration, but also thinking of open AI as a utility, which is actually a really important message because not everyone out there is saying that message. Like, you know, there's, yeah, there's a lot to be worried about in terms of concentration of power.

One of the things is, this is a room full of people who will do really amazing things. They're often right at the beginning of their career, and they might look at AI safety or concentration of power and say, well, I can't really do it. That must be something the labs have to do. There is something…

I mean, you can help on the concentration of power issues simply by starting a successful startup. If that's the only thing you do, and the economy keeps working in the kind of magic of capitalism and having this ecosystem that works together continuing, that alone would be a huge contribution. But…

I guess I would be remiss in asking, you know, what alpha leak can you give us about what's the latest about what, you know, how much more awesome are the models going to be to the extent you can say.