“Democrats have Dr. Amy Acton, who's from Youngstown, who had a very working class, poor background, and is not as eloquent a speaker or as dynamic a campaigner as Vivek, but it just has been an easier sell. … Vivek is associated with the tech industry … He's on tape saying data centers are great. He wants more in Ohio.”

But are they committed to coming out and voting for Trump because he's going to change everything? They don't think that anymore. They've seen what kind of president he is.

So do you think from being out, do you think that that chariot has a chance? Do you think that what is your sense on the ground there?

But don't you don't you think that if anyone can do it, Sherrod is neatly qualified?

Yes, that was the idea behind recruiting him. So Tim Ryan ran for Senate against J.D. Vance and lost. He lost this area, too, even though this has been the story. No Democrat is able to hold on to Moaning County, Moaning Valley. They win Youngstown, but not by enough. Brown, he has a better…

Right. I mean, it's very hard for them to make that case. What other what other like stories of the midterm are you watching besides Ohio states where you are? You know, where you think Democrats really have a shot, where we might be surprised in Iowa, Kansas or in Alaska or where you don't think…