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CC Cody Chandler On The Cloud Pod | Weekly AI & Cloud News on AWS, Azure & GCP

“You're going to run out of smart people to do stuff. That's my biggest concern with this whole thing… Now we're not training the new joiners. They're not getting their first bit of experience. And then five years down the road, who's going to be creating the content for the models to train on anymore? We've killed the information for the input side of the whole machine.”

The Cloud Pod | Weekly AI & Cloud News on AWS, Azure & GCP · Hands-On Engineering Podcasts · October 2026

“You're going to run out of smart people to do stuff. That's my biggest concern with this whole thing… Now we're not training the new joiners. They're not getting their first bit of experience. And then five years down the road, who's going to be creating the content for the models to train on anymore? We've killed the information for the input side of the whole machine.” — Cody Chandler, The Cloud Pod | Weekly AI & Cloud News on AWS, Azure & GCP

Context

The hosts were discussing Stack Overflow traffic falling because developers ask AI instead, and whether models will run out of training data. Cody moves the worry from data to people: if junior engineers never get hands-on experience, nobody produces the next round of human knowledge.

Transcript

The Cloud Pod | Weekly AI & Cloud News on AWS, Azure & GCP Around 33:07 into the episode
Ryan Lucas

…was done on stuff in Stack Overflow. So, when you disagree with the results, you're like, why did it do this? You're like, oh, because it's because of Stack Overflow. Of course, that's all the crazy stuff I used to find on there that I copy and pasted it there. But I mean, that I learned from.

Matt Kohn

…which is why there was getting better at the time. By the time you hit, I wanted to say he said, like, if they kept going up by like 0.5, he said, like, by 5.5 or 5 or 6.0, it was not going to, it was going to have more data than required more training down than the whole world had ever generated.

Cody Chandler

Yeah, no, you're going to run out of smart people to do stuff. That's my biggest concern with this whole thing. Is there's there when I joined this whole thing of technology, I was driving a truck and then I went through and I started soldering for a living and you know making six bucks an hour. And then eventually it got better and I learned more and then they turned me into a programmer and I did more and more stuff. And it was like becoming a craftsman. Now we're not training the people that are the new joiners, right? The NCGs. They're not getting their first, you know, bit of experience to things. And then after that, five years down the road, who's going to be creating the content for the models to train anymore? Like we've killed the information for the input side of the whole machine.

Matt Kohn

And I try to make, I try to say like, well, I think you need to understand the basics to understand, you know, the next gen stuff, aka, you know, in the cloud, it was always like, you need to understand the networking before you can understand, you know, how to do build a VPC and routes and…

Cody Chandler

So, I mean, like V2 of the software engineer might just be that the agents, instead of training upon the data that, you know, stuff that we've built over the last, you know, 20 years, now they go through and say, hey, maybe this isn't even a good way to do it. And they start defending against the…

Matt Kohn

There was an interesting thing I saw online, not to keep going down random tangents. Someone write to analysis and gave AI, I assume it was the same AI, I'm not sure, honestly. And it's one of those things I was reading at night as I was falling asleep, but it was they gave AI the same project and…

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