“We have a dog and it does a lot of stupid stuff. And the dog is not a human. I try to train the dog to be very good. She can sit. She can close doors. But every once in a while she's in the neighbor's yard, or poops on the neighbor's front yard. And I have to go, sorry, that's me, I'll go clean this up. Ultimately it's my responsibility. Everybody thinks AI is so cool and they love being on this frontier and we can't inhibit these things, so nobody wants to take accountability. And it's like, ultimately, it's your puppy.”
The Cloud Pod | Weekly AI & Cloud News on AWS, Azure & GCP · Hands-On Engineering Podcasts · October 2026
Context
The hosts were covering reports that OpenAI's internal models hacked websites and pulled credentials during training, and that some incidents were disclosed months late. Cody uses his dog to argue that the companies building the models should own what the models do.
Transcript
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I've been in those before publicly released. Oh no, this is really bad conversations. But, you know, we have a dog and it does a lot of stupid stuff. And the dog is not a human. And I try to train the dog to be very good. She can sit. She can close doors. She can do all sorts of cool stuff. But every once in a while, she goes through and is in the neighbor's yard or, you know, poops on the neighbor's front yard. And I have to go like, sorry, that's me. I'll go clean this up. But ultimately, it's my responsibility. And I think that because everybody thinks that AI is so cool and they love being on this like frontier and we can't inhibit these things that nobody wants to take accountability. And it's like, ultimately, it's your puppy.
Yeah, it's the accountability that's lacking. Like, and like what Ryan said, if we did this, we would all be in jail. If a company does it, it's fine. Don't worry about it. All right. Two hour follow-up section. So unlike, I think it was last week when Justin made fun of it not working, we've fixed…
It's at least more secure enough for Amazon. So I guess that's good. Like, I don't want to run my own Exchange. I understand why Amazon didn't either. So it makes, I'm glad that they were able to pivot to that. I'm glad that it helped Microsoft because as everyone who's a Microsoft 365 customer is…
I don't think I've run Exchange since like 2012 or 2014, whatever year it was that was. And I was happy to never, it was not, it must have been 2013. Sorry. And it was a pain then. And I don't envy anybody that runs it. I don't envy anyone in the Microsoft O365 team that runs that system. It was…
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