“There's been about a three to four month cycle of evolution of technology and tactics in this war between Russian and Ukrainian forces, and they iterate fairly quickly. … Ukraine has often led in terms of tactical development and bottom-up innovation because of the way Ukrainian units all experiment on their own. They're kind of all defense startups. They all have kind of their own R&D section. … Russian military was slower, but Russia had, in some ways, more capacity and tended to be better at scaling a solution once they identified it.”

…And once they saw that it was quite effective, impossible to jam, right? Because you literally have a cable attached to a drone, that the drone lays behind itself as it flies. Think of it like a very thin fiber optic cable filament, like on a fishing rod, the reel that you would use. It's about

that width, too. It's very thin.

If I can add something to this likes, because it's an aspect of this that we just kind of, and Mike did it here, and I do it all the time too, is you just rattle it off like it's normal and it's so far from normal. The Chuika drone detector, what that means is it looks like an old Game Boy. It has…

It beeps and when it picks up the signal. And so when you're holding it, it's not a pleasant feeling for everybody else in the vehicle that you can see it's beeping. It's picking up the signal on the enemy drone. And I have had times where folks see me looking at the screen. It's a small screen…

So there's a surreal aspect to this. It feels almost like video game-like with real life life and death consequences. The soldiers on both sides are looking at screens, and then the whole world is looking at the screens at the soldiers filming the thing. It just feels like the nature of war is…