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Start free trial →Pivot (Kara Swisher & Scott Galloway) · Tech Strategy & Big Tech · November 2026
Pushing back on Kara Swisher about the data center backlash, Scott Galloway says AI shouldn't be judged through a shareholder lens. Just before, he compared it to railroads, which benefited everyone even as many of the companies that built them went bankrupt.
…the future, and they're spending a trillion dollars on capex. By the way, that's great for the economy. And if they're taking the risk with their companies and their balance sheets to pump a trillion dollars into the economy, we want some of that juice. Every statement. I think what they're worried
…they bet the farm on. And the American people's answer is a simple no. This is a dramatic shift in power, a dynamic Silicon Valley never experienced before. It'll be fascinating to see how it plays out, which I think was great. I think that pretty much says it. So speaking of that, I do. I'm sorry,
can I just, I know you're going to get angry at this. You know who's been amazing at saying no and making everyone feel awesome? What? Europe. And by the way, Anthropic, founded six years ago in America, would be already one of the three most valuable companies in Europe. And here's the thing. We have a tendency to look at everything through a shareholder lens. The railroads benefited all of the U.S. and humanity. And a bunch of companies went bankrupt going at it. Have at it. A bunch of companies went bankrupt and there was a crash in the market with the internet. And we've all done better. No company's made a lot of money really in vaccines. No company's made a lot of money producing jet manufacturer, commercial jet manufacturers. I believe the big winner of AI is all of us because I do believe the majority of those companies are going to go out of business. And along the way, we're going to have a big market correction. I'm going to get a lot less wealthy. And you're going to figure out ways to have a better life with AI. That's okay.
As long as it's not decided on by seven of the same men in a room with Trump. I'm sorry. No, I know you love this idea of good
governance. Absolutely. Have at it.
But they don't want good governance. And the Gilded Age was followed by the progressive era. This is where we're headed. I think Ed is 100% right. I'm going to disagree with you and just move along because I'm running this show. That's