“ChatGPT was actually the greatest name because it's such a temptation and it's so easy for people to get caught up in feeling like they're talking to something real that isn't real. And it's actually responsible to do everything in your power to continue remind people that this isn't real. Anthropic does the exact opposite. They try to make it real. … Their whole view of alignment is not that they can control Claude, it's that they teach Claude to be good. … So it will control itself.”

…they actually come back down? What makes us human is our more animalistic bits, our instincts, our desires, our drives, which are linked to our cerebellum, like our higher level intelligence. And that link, the AI is all on the top. It's all like the top part of our brain. It doesn't actually have the brainstem. Like that actually is the drive to do it. And there's an aspect of, it's actually ChatGPT was actually the greatest name because it's such a temptation and it's so easy for people to get caught up in feeling like they're talking to something real that isn't real. And it's actually responsible to do everything in your power to continue remind people that this isn't real. Anthropic does the exact opposite. They try to make it real. Real. They try to teach it like it's real. Their whole view of alignment is not that they can control Quad, it's that they teach Quad to be good. Yeah. So it will control itself. And I just, it's a fundamental divide.