“I don't need junior engineers to go fix bugs anymore. I can, by and large, have AI go take a look at those things and do as good a better job. And so I think your point is a really good one. How do we develop those engineering skills, if not through the practice of doing what the AIs have done?”

…I think they have anything to worry about? I don't. I'm in the camp of we will continue for the foreseeable future to need more software, not less software. And even though AI will dramatically magnify the amount and the pace of software, there's still tremendous need for great software engineers.

Good point. Okay, so let's look at the other side of that. Junior Engineers,. One thing I keep coming back to is that a lot of the boring work AI is eliminating, but it's also the kind of the work that has taught us how systems behave. So what happens to junior engineers? Who trains them?

Yeah. Is there something that you wouldn't hand AI now that maybe you would in three months?

Yeah, that's a great question. I think the way I think about it is the biggest changes that I've seen over the last three months and that I anticipate over the next three months is kind of the size of work that we can confidently give to an LLM. So if I go back, you know, a full year, the level…

Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so extrapolating that out, I guess, a little bit more. If these tools keep improving at anything close to the pace that we're currently at, what does the engineering organization look like in like three or five years? Like, how does it change?