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IL Ian Landsman Ian Landsman Founder of HelpSpot, a bootstrapped help desk software company he has run since 2005 with no outside funding.

“I think if you're a responsible software engineer right now, this is where the profession is still professional. Everybody's like, oh, everybody's going to vibe code their own stuff. This is just another point against that. There are professional aspects to this job that are not so easily done by the accounting manager because they want their accounting software a little differently.”

Mostly Technical · Bootstrapped & Indie SaaS · November 2026

“I think if you're a responsible software engineer right now, this is where the profession is still professional. Everybody's like, oh, everybody's going to vibe code their own stuff. This is just another point against that. There are professional aspects to this job that are not so easily done by the accounting manager because they want their accounting software a little differently.” — Ian Landsman, Mostly Technical

Context

The end of the episode's security discussion, which included the Binance hack. Ian uses the wave of attacks as evidence that professional engineering still matters.

Transcript

Mostly Technical Around 1:16:46 into the episode
Ian Landsman

…with crypto. You're not using it for anything other than illegal poker games, buying drugs. There's other ways to do those things. And buying pickups. Keep your illegal drug money in the crypto, but get the rest of the money out of it. You don't need all your life savings on there. By the way,

Aaron Francis

decentralized money. Let's all put it into Binance and let them get. Yeah, come on.

Ian Landsman

Irrecoverably stolen instantly and easily. Yeah, the whole thing. It's crazy. But I'm with you. Batten Down the hatches. Every corner. This is like pretty much all we talk about over here all the time, every day. I think if you're a responsible software engineer right now, this is where the profession is still professional. Like everybody's like, oh, everybody's going to vibe code their own stuff. Again, this is just another point against that. There are professional aspects to this job that are not so easily done by the accounting manager because they want their accounting software a little differently. Like there's still a lot that's going to go into it. And all those parts of the job are going to be harder and more advanced for all those things, you know? So we will see. All right. All

Aaron Francis

right. I got eight minutes. So I got eight minutes. Do my day job.

Ian Landsman

New outro. What do you think? New

Aaron Francis

outro. So I'm looking at it. I'm not for anybody

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