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KW Kain Warwick Founder of Synthetix and Infinex, two projects in decentralized finance.

“We will know when AGI has arrived when you can say to a clanker, what was my P&L on the 20th of August 2020 on this address, and it can just tell you the answer. The range and depth of nonsensical things that were going on on Ethereum that day is so vast that only a super intelligent entity would be able to answer that question.”

Unchained · Crypto & Web3 · November 2026

“We will know when AGI has arrived when you can say to a clanker, what was my P&L on the 20th of August 2020 on this address, and it can just tell you the answer. The range and depth of nonsensical things that were going on on Ethereum that day is so vast that only a super intelligent entity would be able to answer that question.” — Kain Warwick, Unchained

Context

The panel was discussing whether AI tooling can help test protocol changes against everything that lives on chain. Kain Warwick describes his personal AGI benchmark: an agent reconstructing the history of one of his old addresses.

Transcript

Unchained Around 35:15 into the episode
Kain Warwick

…uh formal verification here and like a bunch of like process improvements of like using ai to like do these things should we have like more automated ai tooling to like catch this stuff earlier like is that the presume like you have to assume that that's that's kind of what's happening right like

Greg Markou

…happening the way it is you have no idea right so like testing this stuff has so many invariants that it's yeah ai is going to probably make it easier so we can figure it out and it's just a matter of this is probably one of those cases where we're like okay we got to go deeper on the testing

Kain Warwick

so so this is like a slight aside but um i i've said this Long time ago, uh, and I've kind of stuck with it that, like, we will know when AGI has arrived when you can say to a clanker, what was my PL on like the 20th of August 2020 in this address, and it can just tell you the answer, right? Because the range and depth of different fucking nonsensical things that were going on on the 20th of August, 2020 on Ethereum is so vast that like only a super intelligent entity would be able to answer that question. Um, and and so I've been chipping away at this for like a long time. Like, each new models, I build new things, whatever. I have an agent using my old cane.eth address that was active through that whole thing. Like, and it's so painful. Like, I, I, uh, it goes, Hey, you said 100 ETH to this contract, and I cannot work out what the fuck this is, right? So, like, it goes through and like every single transaction, there's like I think 900 transactions over the course of a year or something, right? So, three transactions a day, and then you know, something like two or three thousand uh like um event uh events were…

Greg Markou

It's super hard, yeah. And then that's why like the app developers just need to like you know, they see a change coming out, they go and test it. We have AI, you can just go like, Yeah, you know how your AI know your model will know how your like protocol works. Just be like, oh, yeah, based on…

Kain Warwick

you know, the best part is he doesn't dunk by saying like Vitalik's wrong. He's like, Vitalik's right, guys, you should stop doing the things that you're doing. He's always, it's, it's, it's genius, um, but yeah, I mean, in fairness, you come out and say the core devs broke my incredibly important…

Greg Markou

I just can't. I have gripes because, like, clear signing has been like this topic for, I don't know, Austin, like weird.

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