“People cherry pick. They say, if the universe was one proton heavier per kilogram in the early universe, we wouldn't have existed. Okay, that's true. If it was one proton now, it wouldn't have any effect whatsoever. So it could be completely the same quantity, just at two different times. And one or two percent is not finely tuned at all. That's actually extremely coarse. The Wi-Fi in this room is tuned to something like a part in 10 to the 9th.”

So in this case, you're assuming the existence of God, and it has to be finely tuned. But what a scientist should do, and he's supposed to be a scientist. I like the fact that they said 5 billion people because we know there's 8 billion people. So it must have been when he was young, Sheldon. It's all he's a baby, but whatever. I don't. I could quibble with that too. But, but hey, you know, would he ask about his mother? You know, is it him? Is it his genetics? Like, what made him become who he is that he thinks that she's the perfect mother? I mean, in some ways, like, it couldn't be else otherwise. Even if you had a horrible mother, like, you wouldn't exist if that mother didn't give birth to you. So, by definition, anyway, in the case of fine-tuning of the strength of these forces, that's completely nonsensical. So, he talked about the universe would go into a ball. That's there's no sense to that. There's no, there's no ball. I don't know what he's talking about. I think he's talking about a black hole. Yeah, which yeah, which you know is is is reasonable if there's an extreme mistune. But the problem is, people always do these things for like extremely special starting cases. Like, if right now, the universe is dominated by…