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DA Daron Acemoglu On The Indicator (Planet Money)

“AGI is the burning desire. AGI is where they're aiming. AGI is just around the corner. That's just a code word for saying make the models more and more human-like.”

The Indicator (Planet Money) · Money & Markets · November 2026

“AGI is the burning desire. AGI is where they're aiming. AGI is just around the corner. That's just a code word for saying make the models more and more human-like.” — Daron Acemoglu, The Indicator (Planet Money)

Context

The host said Acemoglu would argue AI companies are not on the 'pro-worker' track he had described. Acemoglu answers that talk of AGI means the labs are trying to make models imitate humans rather than complement them.

Transcript

The Indicator (Planet Money) Around 06:25 into the episode
Speaker 3

…expands teacher capabilities, enables them to perform new tasks, doesn't replace them, doesn't sideline them. So there are many, many other examples from nurses to journalists to creative access, white office, white color work, blue-collar work. I think there are a lot of things of this sort.

Adrian Ma

So this is painting like what potential positive things could be done with AI to augment workers. But I think you would argue that this is definitely not the track that AI companies are on.

Speaker 3

This is not a track. Again, just like we look at what they're saying, they're saying AGI is the burning desire. AGI is where they're aiming. AGI is just around the corner. That's just a code word for saying make the models more and more human-like.

Adrian Ma

AGI meaning artificial general intelligence that has human-level capability. Now, Eric says he's not quite as convinced as Daron that the frontier AI labs are focused on replacing humans, but he said that the technology still needs to be steered to more broadly complement humans. One way to do…

Speaker 3

It is remarkable how good a lot of these engineers are at hitting a benchmark once you put it out there. And we have something called the Stanford AI Index, which is 420 pages filled with all of these benchmarks. Almost all of them are how well can a machine by itself with no human help solve a…

Adrian Ma

Eric and Darren also weighed in on how AI might affect other jobs, including paralegals, game designers, and novelists. But for now, we'll end on their advice for those of you just starting out. Okay, so in the, I guess, the minute that we have left or so, Kara asks, how do we speak to college-aged…

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