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IZ Ioannis Zempekakis On MLOps.community

“If you ask what else I can do to improve, it just keeps on coming and keeps on coming, right? So it never says, 'I think I've done enough.'”

MLOps.community · AI Builders · November 2026

“If you ask what else I can do to improve, it just keeps on coming and keeps on coming, right? So it never says, 'I think I've done enough.'” — Ioannis Zempekakis, MLOps.community

Context

Asked how he hires AI engineers, he says candidates must be able to smell the over-engineered code that AI models produce. This is his explanation of why: a model asked for improvements never decides to stop.

Transcript

MLOps.community Around 32:33 into the episode
Ioannis Zempekakis

One, two, go. Three.

Demetrios Brinkmann

Let's fucking go.

Ioannis Zempekakis

Yeah.

Demetrios Brinkmann

Sorry. No. Did I go too hard on the okay? So you've got the traditional whiteboard interviews. Yes,

Ioannis Zempekakis

that needs to happen, especially now because coding itself doesn't say anything. You need to understand if you understand how to build things that they scale, things that they can, you know, they are not over-engineering. Now, over-engineering is quite simple because you just ask. But then…

Demetrios Brinkmann

It's smelling the overengineered code that Fabo tries to give you.

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