“A great wine starts in your head — you first need an idea of what a great wine is … If you leave it really only to God to make the wine, my experience is that it usually ends up as vinegar.”

And I thought, okay, dry wines, I'm not sure if they can really age that, because the wine was already 56 years old. But I had been this customer who brought me a bottle as a present. I said, oh, you know, that is still from your great-grandfather. And so you know that your grand-grandfather made only dry wines. I said, yes, I've heard about it, but never had a bottle, you know. And so weeks later, I opened it and I said, fuck, you know, what did this old man did, you know, making dry wines, which are still after 50, 60 years, brilliant. Sure, matured, you know. Maturation is something different as oxidation, but perfectly matured. I love this wine so much that I've been going back to my cellar master, to my, you know, winemaker, and said, Bernie, I think that was 25 years ago or whatever. And I said, Bernie, we have to go back to this old tradition of my great-grandfather making dry wines like he did. They are brilliant, even after 50 years, this 47, they showed so…