“There's way more examples of people destroying every single other element of their life for business success. There's this book by Larry Miller, called Driven, an autobiography. He was writing it when he died… He wrote that book as a cautionary tale because he ignored his health… He's like, I'm in a 30,000 square foot house on top of a mountain… none of this mattered. And worst of all, I didn't even have fun… his wife says the most devastating thing you could ever hear. She's like, yeah, I miss him, but it's not like he was here when he was alive anyways.”

…this is at a necessity. You know, if you immigrate here from Korea and you can't get a high-paying job, then you might want to start, you know, a restaurant or a car, like start washing cars or doing something that anything that you can do on your own without permission, I think is the key there.

Question number two comes from a listener who emailed us: A lot of founders seem to have given up their health, marriage, or kids for their company. Is it possible to build something big and also have a life outside it? Dude.

Hmm. Yeah. So through the lens of an entrepreneur, look, I often joke that, and this is true, from the age of 22 to 42 for 20 years, maybe even 25 years, other than a two-year respite in business school, I did nothing but work. I pretended to have hobbies, but I didn't. Occasionally I would work…

Yeah, actually, I have a question for you, Scott, before we move on. Why do you think, why did you say that it cost it cost your hair and your first marriage, and it's worth

it? I have an extraordinary life now. I'm relevant. I get to do whatever I want. I get to spend a ton of time with my kids. I have an absence of stress, which makes my partnership stronger, my friendship stronger. I can walk the walk and give money away. I just have a wonderful, rich life right…