“It shouldn't take an act of heroism to fill combat lines. The heroism should come when you're over bad-guy land.”

…too long. And it's not going to be easy and it's not going to be cheap, but they have to understand that this is an imperative to steward the service and take it into the next decade. They've got to make those investments now. That's, you know, and that's going to come down to buying more stuff.

…airmen and guardians. So we run a risk sometimes when we sit down there and say, hey we're at the ragged edge and if we don't get this you know we're gonna fail but yet we continue to succeed but it's off the backs of our airmen and our guardians and and i agree with you but it's it's yeah you know

it's also why they actually have to open up about what's going on some of the current ops because they've got to be clear-cut about some of the risks being taken if we're going to have solutions because it's uh it's a little different than what some of the public statements have been

yeah all right folks thank you so much for being here it's been great to have you on

thank you so much what a great episode thanks and uh see you next time