“I don't think we judge human music by listening to the absolute worst of it and saying, well, humans are bad at music. No, we judge it by the best. … I trust my ears and I'm hearing this. I'm like, this is good. And that's actually much scarier to me than if it's just slop. Because if it's just slop, then who cares?”

…that good. There is a lot of ethical, moral, and legal issues baked into what it produced. And so I'm not saying it's good at all, but it caused this existential kind of this room started spinning of like, I will never be able to be as good as this machine that did this in, you know, a minute.

…hearing his job, his art form being done and saying it's better than he can do it. And it was created in an instant. This is the moment we've been warned about since AI started rapidly improving in 2021. And it's happening to this guy in his own studio, leaving him staring into the abyss alone.

And it does seem like people are having a really hard time, especially people who work in the arts right now, are having a hard time separating their moral judgments of the technology from their aesthetic judgments of the technology. Aside from doing this podcast, I primarily work in the film…

If I could hit a button and AI could go back to what it was in 2022 or whatever, like before kind of that threshold was crossed, I would hit that button. Like, so I'm not in favor of these tools, but I think they're a threat. You know, you're not going to be into the new machine that can replace…

What Mark did hearing something better than he could make and deciding to find out why instead of looking away is rarer than I think it should be. Most of the artists I know are just avoiding it entirely. A guest from our first season actually wrote to me a few weeks ago, worried in a way I hadn't…