“You're hiring people that specifically are better than you at that function so that that function becomes better than it currently is. If you don't, then the company will never get better than you personally are at every function, which is a complete failure of leadership.”

…or that, like, well, wait a minute, like you don't need to put that label on someone else in order to say everything you just said about yourself. That's not necessary to do that. And if you realize that, maybe it allows you to keep that attitude without having to be negative about something else.

…And I wonder, you certainly didn't do that. You did hire and you grew a sizable company. You have your own building now. That's really cool. So, did you ever struggle with this? Like, how did you talk to yourself about this to get other people to do the work that they're better at than you? Maybe

I wish I would have met you five years ago because I could have really used this. Honestly, because what you just said, like the solopreneur thing, that was everything. And the only thing that I really knew is to do my own thing. I had worked in companies before, but I never had any management…

That's one way. I mean, you don't have to have that, but it's an example of how a network can pay off in ways that you might not have originally thought. Again, there's many different ways. That's one way. I do think there is an attitude, which I've had in the past as well, believe it or not, of…

yeah. Yeah, I don't think I ever made that choice. Like, I again, I don't think I ever thought that I had to make that choice when I started. Because it's just, I'm going to build a software business because that's what I know. That's what I've done for 10 years. I'm going to do one by myself.…