“With Flock Cameras it is so local, it's like a small town has entered into a contract with this company and you can go to a city council meeting and yell at the mayor or you can yell at the city council member that lives three blocks away from you and say, why is this here? I think it's become this thing that people feel like they can make a difference on.”

…packages aren't going to be stolen. They feel like they can know when their pizza is here, things like this. Like people are, people who have ring cameras, I know some people, they're obsessed with them. They're using them all the time. They feel like they are deriving some sort of benefit from it.

I know people who are like on the left who still have their ring camera, you know, even though they would generally be critical of it, right?

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And I feel like in some small towns, there can also be a bit more of like the kind of you know, libertarian kind of, you know, I'm taking care of myself, you know, we're looking after one another. You know, why do I then need this, you know, this foreign…

Yeah, I mean, it really is a range. And I mean, I more than 100 towns have canceled their flock contracts. Like, this is a real backlash that has had a real effect. Like, that is, I mean, and some of the towns that have cut their contracts are really big. They're not towns, they're huge cities.…

when you said using a shotgun to shoot a flock camera, I said, okay, that sounds very American. And then when you said taking one and like throwing it into feeding it to a gator. Exactly. I was like, okay, yeah, that's Florida. Yeah, yeah,