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“So the results are in: data center moratoria went 43 to 1. That was the final score. All hyperscalers must now converge on Harwood, North Dakota, the one outlier. If you're in construction or real estate, get to Harwood, North Dakota, start picking up land, go to the gas pump, fill up your tank, do whatever you can to get power in North Dakota.”

TBPN · Startups & Venture · November 2026

“So the results are in: data center moratoria went 43 to 1. That was the final score. All hyperscalers must now converge on Harwood, North Dakota, the one outlier. If you're in construction or real estate, get to Harwood, North Dakota, start picking up land, go to the gas pump, fill up your tank, do whatever you can to get power in North Dakota.” — John Coogan, TBPN

Context

The hosts were going through the midterm results on local data center ballot measures and bills, where North Dakota was the only place that voted in favor. Coogan's riff is a joke, but the 43-to-1 tally is the figure he cited.

Transcript

TBPN Around 18:59 into the episode
John Coogan

Exactly. But you know who else might benefit in a build out freeze in America on land? Panthalosa. Remember that company?

Jordi Hays

Oh, yeah.

John Coogan

Ocean data centers. We got to cultivate ocean power. I love that company. This is a huge, huge, bobbing data center in the ocean that circles Antarctica and it just bobs up and down using tidal energy. Such a cool project. Incredibly difficult. It's like a true mega project. You got to use a crane to move anything around just to build these things. But certainly more near-term than getting into space, although the SpaceX team seems like they're firing on all cylinders. Starship, this. They're going to try and catch it on the next one. So, like, the next Starship launch is like the one to go see because they're going to send it up. It's going to come down. They're going to try and catch it with Mechazilla, I think is the name of the chopsticks. So, the results are in data center moratoria went 43 to 1. That was the final score, 43 to 1. All hyperscalers must now converge on Harwood, North Dakota, the one outlier. If you're in construction or real estate, get to Harwood, North Dakota, start picking up land, go to the gas pump, fill up your tank, do whatever you can to get power in North Dakota.

Jordi Hays

We've talked about merch for so long. Yeah, but I needed to be able to prove to everyone that it's actually happening. It's going to be next week. What day did I say it was going to be? When's the launch date? I think it's Thursday, the 12th. The 12th. We are launching the merch store, and this…

John Coogan

Okay, is Idaho actually voting on a state gun?

Jordi Hays

Yes.

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