“I always say the best cybersecurity can be the worst cybersecurity. Because if nobody uses it, it doesn't matter how secure it is.”

…granted. And when that session is closed, it disappears. So you're doing sort of both. You're enabling the user to be able to move as fast as they want. And then you're stopping the attacker because you are stripping that standing privilege that for far too long organizations have been using.

…developer, as a data scientist, as anyone creating a system to just have a key that unlocks all the doors and works forever. That's super convenient. So everything that you're describing, just-in-time access, zero-standing privileges, that must add friction, right? How do we minimize that friction?

Makes perfect sense. Looking ahead a little bit, LLM's frontier models are only getting more and more capable. So you have said previously that defenders have three to five months from them hearing this episode before autonomous exploitation becomes standard. So if my listener, their organization…

Yeah, I think like, you know, the countdown, what we know is that attackers are getting faster and that the window to exposure is just, you know, becoming smaller and smaller and that it becomes a harder problem to solve for defenders who have to get it right every single time, where the attacker…

Fantastic, Amy. We're going to have to watch closely as this autonomous exploitation becomes more and more standard in the coming months. And yeah, we'll have to have you on again to explain the latest exploits that our LLMs are getting up to out there in the world and how we can be combating them…