“One very small example is the US has this AI Safety and Security Institute, now called CAISI, and its budget is $15 million a year. Some comparison points: That's the size of a public library in a small- medium-sized city. Another comparison I looked up was it's 25 times less than the Pentagon spends on marching bands every year. And I like marching bands. I actually listen to marching band music. But that's a comparison I don't agree with.”

If you just think about this in the big picture, AI is going to be the most transformative thing this century, maybe just in human history, prima facie a large fraction of global effort should be going to making sure this goes well -- safety, governance, et cetera. And we have almost none of that. There's a lot that needs to be built. One very small example is the US has this AI Safety and Security Institute, now called CAISI, and its budget is $15 million a year. Some comparison points: That's the size of a public library in a small- medium-sized city. Another comparison I looked up was it's 25 times less than the Pentagon spends on marching bands every year. And I like marching bands. I actually listen to marching band music. But that's a comparison I don't agree with. In the UK they have their own AI safety institute, the AI Security Institute. That I think is $70 or $80 million dollars a year or something like that. If the US's budget for its AI safety institute was proportionally the same as the UK one, given the size of the US budget, then I think the US one would be like $850 million a year — way, way bigger than it is now. That feels a little more…