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RH Ryan Holiday Ryan Holiday Author focused on marketing, culture and Stoic philosophy.

“These are not objective facts. These are interpretations. These are stories we're telling ourselves about something that happened. And what the Stoics are trying to get us to see is, who's telling us that story? Sometimes it's society, sometimes it's other people, but a lot of times it's us.”

The Daily Stoic · Ideas & Essays · November 2026

“These are not objective facts. These are interpretations. These are stories we're telling ourselves about something that happened. And what the Stoics are trying to get us to see is, who's telling us that story? Sometimes it's society, sometimes it's other people, but a lot of times it's us.” — Ryan Holiday, The Daily Stoic

Context

At a live Q&A, an audience member asked how to introduce Stoicism to someone who keeps causing themselves suffering. Ryan explains that thoughts like 'I've been humiliated, I'm ruined' are interpretations rather than facts.

Transcript

The Daily Stoic Around 08:25 into the episode
Speaker 4

…around the same ideas, even though they have no real connection. Like if they came to the same idea independently, that's really interesting to me and really of value. So I'm always trying to read and always taking recommendations and then trying to pay those forward when they excite me as well.

Speaker 2

…about approaching introducing Stoicism to somebody who seems to cause themselves a lot of suffering without having any real sense of awareness around it? Or perhaps at moments of breakthrough, they revert back to a victim mindset that inhibits them from having the agency and hence less suffering.

Speaker 4

That's a good question. Well, I'm supposed to do a thing tomorrow where I have to explain Stoicism to a group of five-year-olds. So I've been thinking about this. You know, to me, the core idea in Stoicism is that we don't control what happens. We control how we respond to what happens, that things outside us are objective, but our opinions about them are not, right? Epictetus says it's not things that upset us, it's our opinion about things. And I think when you talk to someone who's sort of always either causing problems for themselves or always feels like they are dealing with problems, I think one of the things we can help them do is step back and get them to see not so much how much these problems are their own creation, like it's their own fault, but how much the problem is based on their perception of there being a problem, right? That person insulted me. You know, I've been humiliated. I'm ruined. Like these are not objective facts. These are interpretations. These are stories we're telling ourselves about something that happened. And I think what the Stoics are…

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 4

I still have to figure out how I'm going to explain that to children, but hello. Hello, Ryan. Yeah, I've been following you for a while. Great fan. I want to change it a little bit, talk about death, memento mori. Okay. You've interviewed a lot of people. You know, been working on this death

Speaker 1

thing as well. What tools would you find useful for someone who's lost someone close, son, daughter, brother, whatever?

Speaker names come from our own diarization. The position is estimated from where the line sits in the episode.

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