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“My CPA signed off, and that's nice, because if there's an audit, the CPA signed off. There's some human protection there. Somebody's taking responsibility. But at the end of the day, is that all we are? Just these warm bodies taking responsibility?”

Doom Debates! · AI Research & Frontier Labs · November 2026

“My CPA signed off, and that's nice, because if there's an audit, the CPA signed off. There's some human protection there. Somebody's taking responsibility. But at the end of the day, is that all we are? Just these warm bodies taking responsibility?” — Liron Shapira, Doom Debates!

Context

Liron Shapira had just described running his accountant's tax return through an AI model, which found five important issues. Here he asks what is left for the human professional once the expertise is gone.

Transcript

Doom Debates! Around 34:46 into the episode
Liron Shapira

…of a domain expert than the CPA and their team. And it's getting awkward because it's like, well, the CPA should at least have their own AI, right? So at least they're a match for what I'm doing. I feel like the CPA is not paying for ChatGPT Pro over here. So it's like a very awkward interaction.

Robert Wright

That's, I mean, that, yeah, that's apparently where we're headed. I just don't see how people don't see the handwriting at the wall. Let me tell

Liron Shapira

you this. Let me tell you this. There was never a time throughout the whole process, there was actually never a time where I ended up having to backtrack on any of the things that the AI was saying. Like the worst that ever happened was sometimes the AI would say stuff where the CPA software couldn't really support it. And then the AI would have suggestions on how to use the software. And eventually one of those suggestions was taken. So the AI was basically never wrong, right? Which is like, how many more years of human CPA, right? To your point, right? Human lawyers, human CPAs. It's like, what are we the warm body in the seat, right? I mean, I needed the CPA signature, right? Because that's always nice. A CPA signed off. That way, if there's like an audit, it's like, well, the CPA signed off, right? So there's some human protection there. You know, somebody's taking responsibility. But at the end of the day, is that all we are, right? Just these warm bodies taking responsibility. And maybe that's fine for that to be all we are.…

Robert Wright

away. I mean, you know, you're right. When people, and when people say, you know, oh, this AI made this mistake, this AI made that mistake, people make a lot of mistakes. You know, you're apparently your accountant had not, you know, crossed all the T's. I mean, my favorite personal story, and this…

Liron Shapira

Yeah. One of the things that's already in the rearview mirror is, you know, when was the last time you heard about hallucinations, right? It just doesn't really seem to be on the radar these days. I also noticed I was talking to Claude, I was asking it about some physics stuff, and I noticed that…

Robert Wright

Yeah, you know, hallucinations happen, but less and less. And Google in the new models claims by what apparently is the industry standard metric on hallucination to have very significantly lowered that and to have the new industry best on its new models as far as hallucinations go. And, you know…

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