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Liz Lopatto

Things Liz Says on Podcasts

Senior reporter at The Verge covering money, the internet and business culture, with recent coverage of the Musk v. OpenAI trial. Joined The Verge in 2014 as science editor and earlier reported on pharma, biotech and science for Bloomberg News. Appears on The Vergecast, where she explains stories like Musk and Altman going to court, and on Decoder with Nilay Patel.

Where to Find Them

Liz Lopatto hosts The Vergecast . They have also been a guest on Decoder with Nilay Patel (4 times) .

Recently: “It only takes a prick to pop a bubble” on The Vergecast (November 2026); “Musk v Altman: Much ado about nothing” on Decoder with Nilay Patel (May 2026); “Musk and Altman go to court” on The Vergecast (April 2026); “Prediction markets want to be the news” on Decoder with Nilay Patel (March 2026); “The company at the heart of the AI bubble” on Decoder with Nilay Patel (November 2025); “Tick Tock, TikTok” on The Vergecast (September 2025).

What They Said

“None of us are that hot. Okay? If you meet a really good looking woman and she thinks you're really fascinating, you might want to think about for a minute why this person is interested in me. Is this person asking me a lot of questions about certain kinds of relationships that I have, and do I want to answer those questions? Because the answer is probably no.” — Liz Lopatto, The Vergecast

Talking about Silicon Valley executives mixing business and romance after the Jensen Huang honeytrap story, Liz Lopatto addresses founders directly with her advice on honeypot risk.

The Vergecast · 2026-11-10 Permalink → Listen →
The Vergecast Around 07:44 into the episode
Speaker 4

I listen. Personally, I think one should not have sexual relationships with people who are your business partners. But like life happens. So if you do that, I think to be fair,

David Pierce

a lot of Silicon Valley would disagree with that assessment.

Speaker 4

It's one of the many reasons. It's like one of the many reasons that I am not employed there. But, you know, like, I just, I really think that like in terms of like maintaining comfortable business relationships, like not sleeping with people that you do business with seems like, seems like good practice. But if you must, like, life happens, we're human. It does also seem like good practice to maybe disclose that and recuse yourself from the relationship. And obviously, that did not happen. Instead, we have all of these like couple photos and like the business deals simultaneously, which like again, Silicon Valley, for those of you who are paying attention, anybody who might be listening who lives there, like, I don't know how to put this. So I'm just going to be blunt about it. None of us are that hot. Okay. Like if you meet a really good looking woman and she thinks you're really fascinating, I think maybe you should like just like, look, I know it's exciting. Like it's exciting when you meet someone hot who's into you.

David Pierce

Absolutely.

Speaker 4

But you might just want to think about for a minute, you know, why is this person interested in me? Because like, you know, maybe in the case of like Jensen Huang, he was like, oh, it's my money. It's my power. Right. Like, I don't think people are like dating Eric Schmidt because he's like…

David Pierce

make you hot, Liz. Like, this is just a fact of the world. Money does make you hot.

Speaker names come from our own diarization. The position is estimated from where the line sits in the episode.
“Yeah, I mean, you only need a prick to pop a bubble.” — Liz Lopatto, The Vergecast

David Pierce asked whether Nvidia becoming anything other than unstoppable could unravel the whole AI build-out. This is The Verge's Liz Lopatto's answer, in the week Jensen Huang admitted an affair with an alleged Chinese spy; the line became the episode title.

The Vergecast · 2026-11-10 Permalink → Listen →
The Vergecast Around 24:25 into the episode
Speaker 4

Like those are your texts on his phone. Like you are potentially very much also in trouble because this important key figure in our AI build out is compromised. Like this is a this is a huge deal.

David Pierce

…saying, well, this is how the bubble pops. The minute NVIDIA becomes anything other than completely unstoppable and impenetrable, this all falls apart because the house of cards is just NVIDIA. Do you buy that? Is there a real outcome here that this all just kind of unravels around Jensen Wong?

Speaker 4

Yeah, I mean, you only need a prick to pop a bubble.

David Pierce

You've been sitting on that one, haven't you? To be honest. I have.

Speaker 4

You've been waiting for

David Pierce

that. We're going to run that into the title of this episode.

Speaker names come from our own diarization. The position is estimated from where the line sits in the episode.

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