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David Brooks

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David Brooks writes The Political Orphanage and writes Book Club with Michael Smerconish . They have also been a guest on The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway (4 times) , Prof G Media (2 times) , Conversations with Tyler (2 times) , Templeton Ideas Podcast (2 times) , Capital Ideas podcast , The Ezra Klein Show , 3 Takeaways™ , FranklinCovey On Leadership , Think Fast Talk Smart: Communication Techniques and The David Frum Show .

Recently: “David Brooks on What Happened to American Conservatism” on Prof G Media (November 2026); “David Brooks on What Happened to American Conservatism” on The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway (November 2026); “America Has a Moral Problem, Not a Political One — with David Brooks” on Prof G Media (April 2026); “America Has a Moral Problem, Not a Political One — with David Brooks” on The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway (April 2026); “What the Neocons Got Right” on The David Frum Show (January 2026); “What’s Actually Breaking America — with David Brooks” on The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway (December 2025).

What They Said

“The key to success in life is not how smart you were at 18, but whether you're capable of keep growing and learning all the days of your life. … I don't want to know whether you're shiny at 18. I want to know: are you capable of perpetual growth until you're 100? And that is a skill that you can't measure at 18.” — David Brooks, The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway

Discussing national service and admissions, David Brooks agrees with Scott Galloway that no one can predict at 18 who will succeed. He recalls students who were electric at 21 but had lost their spark a decade later.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway · 2026-11-05 Permalink → Listen →
The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway Around 21:09 into the episode
David Brooks

…reject kids. And we'll understand that the distinctions these days we draw between Princeton and, I don't know, Penn State, these are ridiculous distinctions. Williams and Amherst, you know, these are ridiculous. But we've built this hierarchy of status, which perverts and distorts all of society.

Scott Galloway

…in graduate school. And fortunately, Berkeley let me into graduate school at a 2.27 undergraduate GPA. And so these institutions are amazing, but why would they sequester this drug? Anyways, I'm sorry, a bit of a speech there. I'm curious what you think about the idea of mandatory national service.

David Brooks

…of your life. And I taught off and on at Yale for 20 years, and it's a wonderful place. I think it's a fantastic place. But I noticed this phenomenon with some of my students. They were electric at 21. But by the time I would have coffee with them 10 years after graduation, some light had gone out. They'd fallen into some career rut. They were not asking the big questions anymore. And so to me, I don't want to know whether you're shiny at 18. I want to know: are you capable of perpetual growth until you're 100? And that is a skill that you can't measure at 18.

Scott Galloway

Talk about one, do you believe that? Do you bind to this thesis that the idolatry of money has kind of overwhelmed and crowded out character, service, patriotism? Where do you stand on the thesis that it's the idolatry of money that has really, really hurt America?

David Brooks

Yeah, I would say it's that's a rhythm in American life where money becomes the dominant ethos. And you would say the 1880s, the 1890s, we were an incredibly materialistic society. But what you need is a moral system that stands against capitalism. So you live in the contest and the tension between…

Scott Galloway

Let's try and move to solutions, a spiritual and personal disconnection. How do you think we repair this? If you, I imagine, get called a lot by probably not this White House, but you probably have a lot of influence and get asked a lot. What are the two or three programs you believe warrant real…

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“My daughter started getting big, expensive, glossy brochures from schools like Harvard. There is literally no student in my zip code who can get into Harvard who doesn't know about Harvard. So why did they send these fancy brochures? In order to induce students to apply so they can reject them. … They've become a rejection academy.” — David Brooks, The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway

Scott Galloway had described elite universities as hoarding admission through artificial scarcity. David Brooks answers with a story about college mailings, noting the schools boast about how many applicants they reject. This is a rebroadcast of an earlier interview.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway · 2026-11-05 Permalink → Listen →
The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway Around 12:30 into the episode
David Brooks

…wedlock, 2.4 times more likely to say they have no friends. And so we've created this class divide on the basis of education. And it was mostly progressives who are in charge of our educational institutions. So fixing that problem is one of the things I think progressives have to have to work on.

Scott Galloway

…that the admissions rate has gone from 76% to 9%, which is my alma mater UCLA. Do you think that there's this virus that infects Democrats and Republicans where we've decided once you get there, pull up the bridge behind you, that we're more LVMH than what was originally envisioned for America?

David Brooks

Yeah, I mean, I would say the one little activity that personifies what you just said is my daughter did okay in her SAT scores, and she started getting brochures from colleges. And she got big, expensive, glossy brochures from schools like Harvard. There is literally no student in my zip code who can get into Harvard who doesn't know about Harvard. And so why did they send these fancy brochures? In order to induce students to apply so they can reject them. That way they can say we're rejecting 96% of the kids who are applying to our school. And so that's a bit of the cynicism of creating, not only creating scarcity, but bragging that you've become a rejection academy, rejecting 96% of the kids who apply. And so that to me is a bit of the segmentation. And then recruiters from the banks and the consulting groups, they recruit at various few schools. Somebody did a study of looking at who works in media, entertainment, corporations, law, science, and 50%. 54% in these various diverse fields went to the same 32 elite colleges. And so we have created a segregation system based on SAT scores and grades that divides…

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We'll be right back after a quick break.

Scott Galloway

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