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Maria Ressa

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Maria Ressa writes Your Undivided Attention and writes The Beat with Ari Melber . They have also been a guest on The Interview (3 times) , The Lawfare Podcast (2 times) , Foreign Policy Live (2 times) , POLITICO Tech , The Lawfare Podcast: Patreon Edition , On the Media , Democracy Now! Audio , Chasing Life , GZERO World with Ian Bremmer , Democracy Now! Video , Newshour , Scaling Laws , PRIO's Peace in a Pod , Decoder with Nilay Patel , Everything Is Fake , Masters of Scale and Pivot (Kara Swisher & Scott Galloway) .

Recently: “Maria Ressa on how to save democracy from Big Tech” on Masters of Scale (October 2026); “Help Is On the Way - A Conversation With Maria Ressa” on On the Media (October 2026); “Three years on from 7 October attacks” on Newshour (October 2026); “Maria Ressa on Fighting Back Against Big Tech” on Foreign Policy Live (September 2026); “Democracy Now! 2026-09-24 Thursday” on Democracy Now! Video (September 2026); “Democracy Now! 2026-09-24 Thursday” on Democracy Now! Audio (September 2026).

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“53% of the traffic on the internet today is non-human. There's so much of the AI companies that have gotten money. So, what do they do? They scrape. When they scrape Rappler or any other news group, your server costs go up. So, I'm literally paying for someone else to steal our content, and they're doing it.” — Maria Ressa, Masters of Scale

Ressa on the business of news, which she calls a market failure. She says zero-click search cut referral traffic to news sites in the Philippines by 85%, and that Rappler survived by spinning out a tech and data business that now earns about 40% of its revenue.

Masters of Scale · 2026-10-29 Permalink → Listen →
Masters of Scale Around 17:35 into the episode
Maria Ressa

Yeah. So I think Rappler, well, let me first talk about our own experiences. We survived our state dictator. We survived barely. And it happens. The fear is real. So I empathize. I'm Filipino and I'm American. Imagine going through this twice in a decade, right? Can you tell everyone

Jeff Berman

in one sentence what Rappler is for the folks who don't know?

Maria Ressa

…messaging that's attacking us, and here are the networks that are spreading it. When we did that, that allowed us to maintain, it now contributes roughly 40% of our revenues because the advertising model is dead, essentially. So, what doesn't kill you does make you stronger, right? Embrace your fear and create. I think this is part of what we've been saying all day. But having said that, folks, 53% of the traffic on the internet today is non-human. There's so much of the AI companies that have gotten money. So, what do they do? They scrape. When they scrape Rappler or any other news group, your server costs go up. So, I'm literally paying for someone else to steal our content, and they're doing it. Anyway, I'm just saying that support your journalists before it's too late.

Aria Finger

Yeah. Amen. So, we only have about three minutes. Oh, my God. Should we do the UN question or?

Reid Hoffman

Go for it.

Aria Finger

All right, okay, great. So, you also lead efforts at the UN to create AI safety guidelines. Say a little bit about that and say, you know, usually Silicon Valley is a fairly skeptical environment about the UN. Say, you know, kind of how and why we should get behind it.

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“My second dictator, and I do name them, and I would argue the more powerful dictator in the Philippines, is Mark Zuckerberg. At that point, 97% of Filipinos on the internet were on Facebook. Facebook was our internet.” — Maria Ressa, Masters of Scale

Aria Finger asked Ressa where the leader who tried to shut down her newsroom is now. Ressa said he faces trial at the International Criminal Court, then named her "second dictator", recalling that when she urged Zuckerberg to visit the Philippines in 2017 he asked where the other 3% were.

Masters of Scale · 2026-10-29 Permalink → Listen →
Masters of Scale Around 03:25 into the episode
Maria Ressa

…I've had to ask for, I lost my right to travel. So until today, to be here in front of you, you had to write a letter to my Supreme Court to ask for permission for me to travel. So guys, when you lose your rights, be careful. It takes a while to claw them back. It's easier to defend it up front.

Aria Finger

But where is the corrupt leader who tried to stop you and your fellow journalists right now?

Maria Ressa

Okay, well, so first. The fight back has two dictators, right? But as you pointed out, Aria, the dictator, Rodrigo Duterte, who had tried to put me in jail for the rest of my life and closed Rappler down, was arrested in March 2025. He's charged with crimes against humanity, and his trial at the International Criminal Court begins November 30th. But that's the first dictator, my second dictator, and I do name them. And I would argue the more powerful dictators. In the Philippines was, is Mark Zuckerberg. At that point, 97% of Filipinos on the internet were on Facebook. Facebook was our internet. Today it's 100%, right? But at that point, I sat with him and I, in 2017, I said, you know, Mark, you have to come visit the Philippines because it's so powerful. The ability to do good is incredible. He was frowning at me. Reed doesn't frown at me, but he was frowning. And then he said, Maria, where are the other 3%? And that was my introduction. So my second dictator has, along with other dictators in tech…

Reid Hoffman

I do think, and this is part of the Master Scale Summit, which is part of the thing of not just technology, but it's kind of soul and culture and humanism and people. And I do think that one of the things that Silicon Valley is a bit of a microcosm for America is also good at

Aria Finger

rebuilding, reinventing itself. So I have that hope and optimism. I do think it's some work. You have to focus on, you know, what are the human impacts. I think technology, you know, I've said we're homotechne, that technology is fundamental to being human, but you have to focus on the human part…

Maria Ressa

Yeah, a lot. And we're counting on you.

Speaker names come from our own diarization. The position is estimated from where the line sits in the episode.

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