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Carmine Gallo

Carmine Gallo

Things Carmine Says on Podcasts

Writes and speaks on communication, storytelling, and persuasion, drawing on years studying how executives and public figures present ideas. A former journalist and news anchor, he now coaches leaders at major companies and writes a regular column for Forbes. Appeared on Think Fast Talk Smart to argue that while platforms like TikTok have changed how people deliver messages, the way an audience's brain processes a story is the same as ever. His books include Talk Like TED and The Storyteller's Secret.

Where to Find Them

Carmine Gallo has been a guest on Think Fast Talk Smart: Communication Techniques (3 times) , The Stacking Benjamins Show (2 times) , EntreLeadership (2 times) , How to Be Awesome at Your Job , The Duct Tape Marketing Podcast and The Mello Millionaire with Tommy Mello .

Recently: “316. The Persuasion Equation: Grab Attention & Make Your Message Meaningful” on Think Fast Talk Smart: Communication Techniques (August 2026); “What you can learn from the greatest businessmen of all time (with Carmine Gallo)” on The Mello Millionaire with Tommy Mello (April 2026); “How to Capture Attention Without Clickbait” on The Duct Tape Marketing Podcast (January 2026); “120. A Few of Matt’s Favorite Things: 10 Communication Takeaways from 2023's TFTS Episodes” on Think Fast Talk Smart: Communication Techniques (December 2023); “103. Simple Is a Superpower: How to Communicate Any Idea to Any Audience” on Think Fast Talk Smart: Communication Techniques (August 2023); “Want to Earn More? Level Up Your Communication Game” on The Stacking Benjamins Show (November 2022).

What They Said

“TikTok has not been around long enough to rewire our brains, but there are patterns.” — Carmine Gallo, Think Fast Talk Smart: Communication Techniques

Gallo spent two years studying communicators from Obama to MrBeast and was asked what a historic presidential address and a viral video have in common. He answers by rejecting the assumption behind the question — that the audience itself has been remade. The claim is narrower than the usual attention-span talk: the tools of communication changed, the 350,000-year-old brain did not.

Think Fast Talk Smart: Communication Techniques · 2026-08-20 Permalink → Listen →
Think Fast Talk Smart: Communication Techniques Around 05:36 into the episode
Carmine Gallo

…about this person? Why should I care about the content? So, for example, in this podcast, you should care because what Matt and I are going to discuss will help you build the career that you dreamed of and thrive in the age of AI. So listen up because we're going to give you a lot of good tips.

Matt Abrahams

…explore a multitude of communicators. The list is large and they're very different from Barack Obama to Mr. Beast. Is there a common denominator between a historic presidential address, let's say, and a highly engaged viral YouTube video? And if there is, what is it and why should we care about it?

Carmine Gallo

The one big lesson that I learned from two years of doing the research on viral voices is something that I think everybody needs to understand. And that is that the tools of communication have changed. The human brain has not. So now you're talking about the human brain, which is a 350,000 year construction project. TikTok has not been around long enough to rewire our brains, but there are patterns. If you look at patterns, they're very similar, which was the cool thing about the people I interviewed. You mentioned Barack Obama and Mr. Beast. Okay, what are the similarities? Both are storytellers, different types of stories, different audiences, different platforms, but they are both skilled at weaving together a narrative that makes you want to be a part of the story. I interviewed Barack…

Matt Abrahams

The fact that we are communicating through different tools, different techniques, we're still communicating with the same old brain we've had. And so those lessons learned in the past apply today. And I appreciate you delineating many of them. And I love this idea of communication having a…

Carmine Gallo

The hook, the analogy, the context. Hook is important, especially now more than ever, because of social media. So it is important to, what they say, stop the scroll. If you're doing a podcast, if you're doing any type of social media, you've got to stop people from just scrolling and moving on…

Matt Abrahams

Absolutely. So you've given us the hack, hook, analogy, and contents. H-A-C- And what I want everybody who's listening and watching to recognize is what Carmine did is as he went through that he gave you the information he said what it was the hook the analogy explained what it was and then gave a…

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