“The bottleneck is no longer writing code. The bottleneck is writing quality code, writing code that works all the time, having the test cases that fail before it hits production.”

…trade-off. The trade-off is you don't want to break systems. If all you're going to do is iterate rapidly, once you have the kind of customer base that Salesforce has, things start to break and then that slows you down even further. You want to be able to balance and do both. Yeah. People used to

create lots of tech debt when they would switch to this.

Okay. So, I think we covered the life cycle. I think the very last component at the very top of the pyramid is probably where you spend a lot of your time. How engineers, product managers, and executives who are really setting the strategy of what we're working on collaborate to build a roadmap.…

Great question. So, let me take a step back first. I think at a high level, I'd say taste, judgment play a much bigger part than they did before. That's what forms the intuition on the broad vector along which you want to move the organization, the team, the product. But I said broad vector, it's…

I want to return to that role layer because you brought up the forward-deployed engineer. It's got to be the hottest, sexiest new role in tech. And for my audience, it's the forward-deployed product. Manager. That's super interesting to them. What do you see? Are these roles replacing the…