“I noticed that in conferences, people who are in this sort of pre-Nobelitis mode, they'll very subtly talk up their work and they won't mention other people's work, especially competitors' work as much and so on. It's a kind of human psychology. And I just think that it's a little unfortunate. And it's partly the community's fault and society's fault that they give so much importance to this one award.”

I did. I mean, everybody did. I think, you know, what happens is that you do something important. The first thing you don't think is, oh, you know, I could get a Nobel Prize. That's not what you think about. You think, wow, this is fantastic. But then you get invited to lots of talks, conferences, and so on. And everywhere you go, people say, hey, this could get a Nobel Prize. And then suddenly that kind of warps your own thinking. And then you start thinking, well, okay, it's limited to three people. And there are a whole bunch of people contributing to this field. And then I noticed that in conferences, people who are in this sort of pre-Nobelitis mode, they'll very subtly, you know, talk up their work. And, you know, they won't mention other people's work, especially competitors' work as much and so on. It's a kind of human psychology. And, you know, I just think that it's a little unfortunate. And it's partly the community's fault and society's fault that they give so much importance to this one award. I mean, there are lots of other prizes, you know, the Lasker Prize and Breakthrough Prize. But if you walk down the street, and, you know, by the way, the Breakthrough Prize pays…