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“You name 100 blessed organizations that are priority. They have access to a cyber model. You've just created 100 attack vectors for me to go compromise. And by the way, they're pretty easy to compromise.”

Latent Space · AI Builders · November 2026

“You name 100 blessed organizations that are priority. They have access to a cyber model. You've just created 100 attack vectors for me to go compromise. And by the way, they're pretty easy to compromise.” — Shawn Wang, Latent Space

Context

The conversation turned to labs giving a short list of vetted organizations early access to cyber-capable models so they can patch before wider release. The host pushes back, arguing that a named list of privileged organizations becomes a target in itself.

Transcript

Latent Space Around 1:14:21 into the episode
Alessio Fanelli

…and do it after. Or is there a problem of, oh no, it'll be much better at finding vulnerabilities. You can full cent test it for longer, even if you've patched, or like, how long, right? You can give it for three months, someone can try to exploit it for six months. The problem's not solved, right?

Mihail Eric

Right, right. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1

My whole problem with, and again, like, this is a whole rant that we don't need to go into, but like, it's like, you know, you name 100 bless organizations that, like, okay, these are like priority. They have access to a cyber model that you've just created 100 attack vectors for me to go compromise. And like, by the way, they're pretty easy to compromise. Yeah. So I don't know. Anyway, above all pay grade.

Alessio Fanelli

It's always fun to get juicy in security.

Speaker 1

I mean, security is right now very juicy, right? And I think actually the security folks love it because they usually don't get that much attention and now they have a ton of attention. Is that true?

Mihail Eric

I mean, that they don't get attention. I find that, at least from a VC perspective, you'd love, VCs love investing in security companies. And pretty good, like a Wiz or something. It's done very, very well.

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