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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · Money & Markets · October 2026
Asked how he would answer calls to stop AI, the Palo Alto Networks CEO blames the field's own founders for the gloom. He says labs one-upping each other with scarier stories is a race to the bottom on narrative.
Mikesh, Aurora.
How are you going to solve it?
I said, sounds like a great idea. Let's go. Why don't you start? I'm right behind you. It's like, okay, you know, with all respect, it's interesting. This is the first time we have dwelled so much on the dark side of technology in history. And I don't know why it is. Maybe you guys can explain to me. We spend so much time obsessing with the dark side of technology. And my thesis is it started with the godfathers or whatever you want to call them, the builders of this technology. They have over-indexed and dwelled harder on the dark side of this, causing this narrative. I think we need a narrative shift. I mean, think about it. Like, we only hear about all the bad stuff that this technology does. Oh my God, I got mitzvahs. Wait, I got something worse. My guys jumped over. Wait, mine jumped over six months ago. Mine are worse. It's like, dude, this is not a good narrative. This is a race to the bottom from a narrative. We're building a wet
lab.
But Nikesh, why then do you think Bernie Sanders and others are seizing on the moment? I know we've talked about this before, but like, what's going on that's motivating Bernie Sanders to be so vocal about stop AI, stop AI? Is it like a power struggle that they view there to be an emerging system…
David, this is what I phone a friend. You guys are much more competent at answering these questions than I am. Jason and Shamath are probably better equipped to answer these questions than me. Yeah.