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“1% of companies represent 90% of AI spending. So that's tokens. And of that 90%, 80% of them are from unprofitable VC-backed companies. … And so you can't be in a situation where, on the one hand, you're talking about breathtaking valuations, but where 75 cents of every dollar is actually just a startup sending it back and forth so that they can mark themselves up. That's, I think, a structural problem.”

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · Money & Markets · October 2026

“1% of companies represent 90% of AI spending. So that's tokens. And of that 90%, 80% of them are from unprofitable VC-backed companies. … And so you can't be in a situation where, on the one hand, you're talking about breathtaking valuations, but where 75 cents of every dollar is actually just a startup sending it back and forth so that they can mark themselves up. That's, I think, a structural problem.” — Chamath Palihapitiya, All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Opening a segment on Ken Griffin's AI bubble warning, Chamath describes a loop: VCs fund startups, the startups spend that money on other companies' AI, and the resulting revenue is used to raise more money. He says a Ramp economist confirmed his rough estimate.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · 2026-10-23 Listen to the episode → More from Chamath Palihapitiya → More Money & Markets quotes →

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg Around 01:10 into the episode
Chamath Palihapitiya

…they had was because I was doing my own math. And I tweeted this thing, Nick, maybe you can put it back up there, where I said, okay, my back of the envelope math, knowing everything that I know and everything that I see, is about 1% of all of the companies represent 90% of all the revenue. And

Jason Calacanis

revenue for AI spend?

Chamath Palihapitiya

…is by consuming other people's AIs. And so that company then starts to show revenue traction. Those folks then say, hey, look how well we're doing, raises a bunch of money from the same VCs. And it's just this circularity. Why that's important is what Ken is pointing out is that for AI to really scale as a predictable driver of long-term earnings, it has to diffuse out of the startup ecosystem. And so you can't be in a situation where, on the one hand, you're talking about breathtaking valuations, but where 75 cents of every dollar is actually just a startup sending it back and forth so that they can mark themselves up. That's, I think, a structural problem. Now, we've seen that structural problem in the past. That happened in the early days of cloud when AWS initially started to expose EC2 and S3. The consumers of an EC2 instance or an S3 bucket were startups. But the difference there is that AWS was abstracted from Amazon retail, which was already then a roughly break-even profitable business, at least on a free cash flow basis. So what's…

Jason Calacanis

just to be clear for the audience, Ramp provides financial services, neobank, and credit cards primarily to startups. So they know startup data. There's a free commercial.

Chamath Palihapitiya

I think they know broad-based data from other data sources as well. And I think Aura has access to all of it. But

Jason Calacanis

there, but what he said is

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