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Breaking Bread with Tom Papa · Food & Beverage · October 2026
Lorre on casting, talking about actors Billy Gardell and Lance Barber. He calls it the rule he has always been firmest about: the jokes only land if viewers are pulling for the people telling them.
And it worked out brilliantly because Lance then became the great, the great Jim, you know, in George Sr. in Young Sheldon. Young Sheldon.
…Lance came in the room. And we're just, you know, you've been this a thousand times. You just see people. People, people, and someone walks in, it's just like, Who's this guy? That was Lance, yeah, a young Lance, yeah, and he just walked in. It was like, Who, whatever he does is going to be funny.
He has serious both guys have incredible chops, yeah, they really do, yeah, different kinds of chops because Billy's coming from stand-up, yeah, uh, but he's got a big heart, and the audience gets it, yeah. And I think, you know, the other rule I've always, you know, been really firm about is the audience has to care about a character in a comedy in order to laugh. If you don't care, yeah, if you don't care about these individuals, yeah, in their relationships, there's no joke in the world that's going to save the show, right? You know, and uh, and how much guys like Billy Gardell and Lance, yeah, you're pulling for them,
yeah, exactly as soon as you see their face, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, is it the character and the essence of the actor? It's a casting. I think that's the
magic of casting is finding an actor who's that has that you know, ineffable quality makes you care, right? Empathy, compassion, whatever it, whatever the word is, yeah, that makes you care that they get the girl, that they get the job, that they get they figure out the thing with the kid or the…
yeah, yeah, just as you're saying it, all these people, all these characters from your shows are popping in my head, even from Charlie and John, and all the you root for all of them,