“The way we'll solve this problem is not going to be by banning boilers and fossil fuel cars or by focusing on the emissions that we want to get rid of, but actually by growing the solutions. And we've just got to grow them to the point where they're crowding out the fossils.”

…but you call it the process. But the TED talk process is that really what I've done with the talk is propose a model of acceleration, a model of change, which is this idea. And I've actually spoken about it on one of the episodes of Cleaning Up, so we can put a link to the, it's called the Pragmatic Climate Reset Part 1. I did this four-line model. And the four-line model essentially says that the way we'll solve this problem is not going to be by banning boilers and fossil fuel cars or by focusing on the emissions that we want to get rid of, but actually by growing the solutions. And we've just got to grow them to the point where they're crowding out the fossils. And that is a model of how we're going to get the transition done. But there are lots of other, there are lots of other models that have been proposed over time. I mean, I obviously think mine is the best. But it just strikes me that when you have, whether it's narratives or law or all of the work that you've done, sort of comparing and contrasting and trying to educate yourself and others, that…