“At first, the temperance folks tried to ban barbecues or at least shame people into not going. But then they realized, well, people like the barbecue part. Let's just get rid of the whiskey. So they started holding cold water barbecues.”

…at was the barbecue because the barbecue was basically a giant outdoor party. Sure. Very male, very rough. And what you see is because toasting was such a natural part of barbecue, particularly at the 4th of July, after everybody ate, there'd be round after round of toasts where everybody was toasting to America, to George Washington, to the Constitution, and of course, chugging back whiskey. At first, the temperance folks tried to ban barbecues or at least shame people into not going. But then they realized, well, people like the barbecue part. Let's just get rid of the whiskey. So they started holding cold water barbecues. And they were just like any other barbecue. You'd have the same big old pits and animals cooked on it. If it was Fourth of July, there'd be the speeches and the patriotic songs, and there'd be toasts, but all they would have would be spring water. In fact, the accounts were to say they were cold water toasts. So you would still toast George Washington and the flag and the Constitution, but it…