“We're all builders, I think. That's one of the things that's consistent across all of us: we like to build something. And when I can't contribute to the building, that's when it gets boring.”

business to that place.

Right. But like the 20 hours I worked, man, I was, I was on it. And then you take that away. I'm like, well, what do you want me to do now? I was like, horrible.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, for two weeks, it was nice after we, after my tour of duty was done, I was like, all right, good. I don't have to do anything. And then I'm like, just antsy. Yeah. I was like, there's only so much stuff I could build around the house. You know, like everybody I know is…

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, I think that's probably what made you a good CEO, right? It's like you want to take whatever is inside and just pour out that contribution into something, right? Building something, building people, solving problems, or like bringing expertise to communities. Yeah. Yeah. I…

When with your new role and being the CEO, how did you grow the agency before you were bought again? And now that you're the chief growth officer, how are you continuing to build? Is it building the agency through acquisition? Because a lot of times, and I've done this, where once you start growing…