“There's a weird thing in which the outside world has somehow decided that front-end coding is kind of second class. You get lots of kids out of school saying, I wouldn't want to be pigeonholed into doing front-end things. It's actually really challenging to figure out how to design performant and flexible UIs, and building good abstractions in that context is really quite interesting. But it's somehow weirdly low status, for reasons I don't quite understand.”

…like in practice, it's like a mostly a waste of their talent to have them work on pure software problems. Like the right thing for them to be working on is hardware. So they're in that sense, they are less fungible, even if they have like a lot of the skills that would let them do the other things.

…same thing in our front-end engineering pipeline at Jane Street as well. It's like a lot of our front-end engineers actually totally could go and be writing back end code if they wanted to, but it's like they do have this specialization that is super useful for Jane Street and very, very valuable.

I don't get it. I also think, I think, especially as a person who's very like user motivated, I think that I just sometimes you go and talk to someone and they're like, all I want is for this button to be blue. And I'm like, I can make your day. Like, that is like just so fun because it's like…

But like what, in some ways, it's easy and true to say that like there are lots of great people that we miss. Like that's obviously true. But what would you do about it? Like, you know, you have the keys to the kingdom. You can change our recruiting process wherever you want. Like, what would you…

If I had the keys to the kingdom and I could change our recruiting process however we wanted.