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CP Caleb Porzio Caleb Porzio Creator of Livewire, Alpine.js and Flux UI, open source tools that let Laravel developers build interactive frontends without leaving PHP. Writes and records No...

“Like that's true sight. When you start vibing, you lose that. The machine is gone. It doesn't exist in your head.”

Laravel Podcast · Laravel Ecosystem · November 2026

“Like that's true sight. When you start vibing, you lose that. The machine is gone. It doesn't exist in your head.” — Caleb Porzio, Laravel Podcast

Context

Caleb Porzio explains "true sight": having the whole system both on screen and in your head, the way you do when you write a feature by hand. Vibe coding costs you that picture, and his new tool Paraframe is an attempt to get it back.

Transcript

Laravel Podcast Around 11:45 into the episode
Caleb Porzio

Right. Like you know this. You're a programmer. You could run the program in your head.

Matt Stauffer

Yeah.

Caleb Porzio

Like that's true sight. Like you, and when you start vibing, you lose that. The machine is gone. It doesn't exist in your head.

Matt Stauffer

Yeah.

Caleb Porzio

You know? So anyway, that's like, how do I get back to that true site? Still move fast and still do big things, but still feel like, you know, like when you're vibe slopping, even if it looks good squinting, you have an idea internally of like how accounted for every word and pixel and menu and…

Matt Stauffer

is organized. And you just, yeah,

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