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PM Patrick McKenzie Patrick McKenzie Spent six years at Stripe working on payments infrastructure before moving to an advisory role there, after founding several small software companies over the p...

“My elevator pitch for why anyone should care about finance: it is in the business of teleporting value through time and space, no more and no less.”

Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11) · Startups & Venture · October 2026

“My elevator pitch for why anyone should care about finance: it is in the business of teleporting value through time and space, no more and no less.” — Patrick McKenzie, Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11)

McKenzie was reading aloud his 2022 Bits About Money essay on charitable donations. He used the line to introduce donor-advised funds, which act as a kind of time machine for donors whose income arrives in a different year from when they want to give.

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Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11) Around 00:00 into the episode
Speaker 1

Welcome to Complex Systems, where we discuss the technical, organizational, and human factors underpinning why the world works the way it does. Hideo, everyone. My name is Patrick McKenzie, better known as Patty 11 on the internet. When I still worked at Stripe, I worked with Nan Ronzahoff, who did Stripe Climate and has done some other things as well. This year, she wrote an essay called The Third Wave of American Philanthropy, which focuses on the AI-generated tidal wave of charitable giving, which is coming down the pike. And as that gets increasingly metabolized by the rest of society, one word that you're going to hear a lot is DAF for donor-advised fund. As it happens, I wrote about donor-advised funds as both a user of them on the donor side and on the charity fundraising side a few years ago, and I think understanding this a little bit is going to be very useful for people. So I thought I would read a classic essay from Bits…

Speaker 2

I think the acknowledgement of an ad read sounds cooler in Japanese.

Speaker 1

Cool, right? So picture this. You've finally recruited that engineer you've been eyeing for months. The interview feedback was unanimous, totally cracked. Their salary and equity grant were pricey, but worth it. You can't wait to get them to work. On filing expense reports? No, of course. You've…

Speaker 2

Thanks for tuning in to this week's episode of Complex Systems. If you have comments, drop me an email or hit me up at Patty11 on Twitter. Ratings and reviews are the lifeblood of new podcasts for SEO reasons, and also because they let me know what you like.

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