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“We're now, you know, 11 years after I broke this story in the Wall Street Journal. And who is stoking the interest? Who is recreating reasons for us to again pay attention to her? It's Elizabeth herself. She is the one who invited these filmmakers into her home 34 days before she was scheduled to go to prison.”

Hard Fork (NYT) · Tech Strategy & Big Tech · October 2026

“We're now, you know, 11 years after I broke this story in the Wall Street Journal. And who is stoking the interest? Who is recreating reasons for us to again pay attention to her? It's Elizabeth herself. She is the one who invited these filmmakers into her home 34 days before she was scheduled to go to prison.” — John Carreyrou, Hard Fork (NYT)

Hard Fork brought together three journalists who covered Elizabeth Holmes, after a new documentary in which the filmmakers spent a month with her just before she began her prison sentence. The panel had been crediting her gender and her persona for the lasting fascination; the reporter who broke the Theranos story puts it on Holmes herself.

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Hard Fork (NYT) Around 26:29 into the episode
Speaker 2

such a celebrity, those people.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I agree with everything you guys just said, but let me ask this, though. We're now, you know, 11 years after I broke this story in the Wall Street Journal. And who is stoking the interest? Who is recreating reasons for us to again pay attention to her? It's Elizabeth herself. She is the one who invited these filmmakers into her home 30 days, 34 days before she was scheduled to go to prison. She's the one who is

Speaker 1

still asking for the public attention. And so, you know, I think we also have her own very proactive efforts to blame for this, for why this is still a story that's in the news and that's generating tons of coverage 11 years later.

Speaker 4

That's a great point. And honestly, I would not be surprised if Sam Bankman Fried is currently emailing Nathan Fielder about getting a meeting.

Speaker 2

Unfortunately,

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